韓國(guó)人如何看待出生率危機(jī)？

@jkim7512
Raised by Korean parents, I was taught that I was a failure as a human because I was not the best at anything so I have no desire to bring a person into the cruel world that I was brought up in.

在韓國(guó)父母的撫養(yǎng)下，我被教導(dǎo)說(shuō)因?yàn)槲也皇侨魏畏矫娴馁?，所以我是一個(gè)失敗的人，因此我沒(méi)有欲望把一個(gè)生命帶入我成長(zhǎng)的那個(gè)殘酷的世界。

@imjh12
My parents told me ‘you can enjoy your life when you became an adult, so stop playing and study.’
That’s why I’m enjoying my life instead of having a child or getting married

我父母告訴我，“你成年后就可以享受生活了，所以停止玩耍，學(xué)習(xí)吧?！?br /> 這就是為什么我現(xiàn)在享受生活，而不是生孩子或結(jié)婚。
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@Cloudxv1
IMO, this is a scene not only in Korea but everywhere in the world. Cost of living is increasing non stop, richer gets richer and middle income earners are squeeze till it's difficult to breath. So it's no surprise that many younger generations opt to take care of their own first instead of thinking to start a family.

在我看來(lái)，這不僅是韓國(guó)的現(xiàn)象，也是世界各地的現(xiàn)象。生活成本不斷上升，富人越來(lái)越富，中等收入者被擠壓到難以呼吸。因此，許多年輕一代選擇先照顧自己而不是考慮組建家庭，這并不奇怪。

@notnanni
if i could be a father, heck, i'd want five kids! but as a mother, being expected to give up everything i've worked for and become a ?? housewife or worse, having to care for the kids as a default parent AND working ??, i could never imagine that. The gender divide in korea is insane and it's growing worse with men not wanting to admit that the current system is disadvantageous towards women at best and oppressive at worst. Women are the future, they control the birthrate when human rights are ensured. It'd do a lot of societies good to treat them better, and it's have good effects for everyone, regardless of gender.

如果我能成為父親，天哪，我想要五個(gè)孩子！但作為母親，我被期望放棄我為之奮斗的一切，成為家庭主婦，或者更糟，作為默認(rèn)的父母照顧孩子并工作，我無(wú)法想象。韓國(guó)的性別分歧是瘋狂的，而且隨著男性不愿承認(rèn)當(dāng)前制度對(duì)女性最不利，甚至是最壓迫的，情況越來(lái)越糟。女性是未來(lái)，當(dāng)人權(quán)得到保障時(shí)，她們控制著出生率。更好地對(duì)待她們會(huì)對(duì)許多社會(huì)有益，對(duì)每個(gè)人都有好處，無(wú)論性別。

@alicec.6195
After living in a few different countries I noticed that men and women act the same: men say they want kids one day and it's a really vague idea with no proper plan of action while women think practically on how to get there and how that will affect them financially and mentally and start preparing earlier. In my opinion this is why a lot of women are set on not having kids, because they thought through it properly for a while. Men just surf life saying they want to have kids (1, 2, 3, 4....) and hope that women will deal with the hard work and logistics.

在幾個(gè)不同的國(guó)家生活后，我注意到男性和女性的行為是一樣的：男性說(shuō)他們有一天想要孩子，這是一個(gè)非常模糊的想法，沒(méi)有適當(dāng)?shù)男袆?dòng)計(jì)劃，而女性則會(huì)實(shí)際考慮如何實(shí)現(xiàn)這一點(diǎn)，以及這將對(duì)她們的經(jīng)濟(jì)和心理產(chǎn)生什么影響并提前開(kāi)始準(zhǔn)備。在我看來(lái)，這就是為什么許多女性決定不生孩子的原因，因?yàn)樗齻円呀?jīng)仔細(xì)考慮了一段時(shí)間。男性只是隨波逐流地說(shuō)他們想要孩子（1、2、3、4……），并希望女性會(huì)處理艱苦的工作和后勤。

@medrastica
Wow, it was astounding to watch this interview and feel so represented by the words of women that live in the opposite side of the world (I'm from Italy). I felt like there were no barriers, no cultural differences that could prevent me in really understand what they were saying.
I love and support them all.

哇，看這個(gè)采訪真是令人驚訝，我感到自己完全被生活在世界另一端的女性的話所代表（我來(lái)自意大利）。我感覺(jué)沒(méi)有任何障礙，沒(méi)有任何文化差異能阻止我真正理解她們?cè)谡f(shuō)什么。
我愛(ài)并支持她們所有人。

@floralee1645
I am a Taiwanese woman. Taiwan’s birth rate is competing with SK’s to be lowest in the world. I personally think it stems from a few issue.
Housing: when we are finally more stable in our career (28 or above), we often need to choose between putting down or deposit for a house or having a kid. Most people will choose a house since raising a kid without housing security is terrifying
Social structure: many East Asian country has this insane idea that woman needs to give up their job when they have kids. Many companies also use insane tactic to force pregnant women to quit. If today women got divorced by their husband after having the kid, they will have little financial prospect for the future since single mom’s employability goes down. Not to mention in this economy, one working parent is often not enough. The amount of financial burden that’s put on man from the society also creates isolation between man and their families. It is very unhealthy for either side.
Future prospect: if you talk to young people, you will often hear how pessimistic about our own future. As GenZ I grew up during a global recession and graduated college in a pandemic. Between AI and climate change’s affect catching the developed world, I do not know how to prepare for the next generation.

我是一名臺(tái)灣（地區(qū)）女性。臺(tái)灣（地區(qū)）的出生率能夠與韓國(guó)競(jìng)爭(zhēng)成為世界上最低的，我個(gè)人認(rèn)為這源于幾個(gè)問(wèn)題。
住房：當(dāng)我們最終在職業(yè)生涯中更加穩(wěn)定（28歲或以上）時(shí)，我們經(jīng)常需要在支付房屋首付或生孩子之間做出選擇。大多數(shù)人會(huì)選擇房子，因?yàn)闆](méi)有住房保障撫養(yǎng)孩子是可怕的。
社會(huì)結(jié)構(gòu)：許多東亞國(guó)家有這種瘋狂的想法，認(rèn)為女性在生孩子時(shí)需要放棄工作。許多公司還使用瘋狂的手段迫使懷孕的女性辭職。如果今天女性在生孩子后被丈夫離婚，她們未來(lái)的經(jīng)濟(jì)前景將非常有限，因?yàn)閱紊砟赣H的就業(yè)能力下降。更不用說(shuō)在這種經(jīng)濟(jì)環(huán)境下，父母只有一方工作往往是不夠的。社會(huì)對(duì)男性施加的經(jīng)濟(jì)負(fù)擔(dān)也造成了男性與家庭之間的隔離，這對(duì)任何一方都非常不健康。
未來(lái)前景：如果你與年輕人交談，你會(huì)經(jīng)常聽(tīng)到他們對(duì)我們的未來(lái)有多么悲觀。作為Z世代，我在全球經(jīng)濟(jì)衰退中長(zhǎng)大，并在大流行期間大學(xué)畢業(yè)。在人工智能和氣候變化影響發(fā)達(dá)國(guó)家之時(shí)，我不知道如何為下一代做準(zhǔn)備。

@Mokawoo
What the guy said , seeing our parents work to the bone to not enjoy much in life makes people not want to give life just to endure what we had already endured which was seeing our parents suffer and suffering with them .

正如那個(gè)人所說(shuō)，看到我們的父母拼命工作卻無(wú)法享受生活，讓人們不想僅僅為了忍受我們已經(jīng)忍受的東西而給予生命，即看到我們的父母受苦并與他們一起受苦。

@MrBurns742
This all stems from rising income inequality. My grandparents had 6 kids, and lived pretty well in the suburbs. All off his salary from drafting maps. My parents both worked blue collar jobs, and just got by raising 2 kids. Now, I can't really afford any children.

這一切都源于收入不平等的加劇。我的祖父母有6個(gè)孩子，并在郊區(qū)生活得很好，所有這些都是靠他繪制地圖的薪水。我的父母都從事藍(lán)領(lǐng)工作，勉強(qiáng)撫養(yǎng)了2個(gè)孩子?，F(xiàn)在，我真的負(fù)擔(dān)不起任何孩子。

@CherryJuli
So, the gender pay gap is extreme in Korea and women get treated like garbage ones they are married and have kids. Men treat them like crap as well and once they have kids, they can’t have a life of their own anymore. Costs of living are increasing exponentially. But why oh why don’t Korean women want to have kids? It remains a mystery.

韓國(guó)的性別薪酬差距非常嚴(yán)重，女性在結(jié)婚生子后被視為垃圾，男性也把她們當(dāng)作垃圾對(duì)待。一旦她們有了孩子，她們就不能再有屬于自己的生活了，因?yàn)樯畛杀緯?huì)呈指數(shù)級(jí)增長(zhǎng)。但為什么，為什么韓國(guó)女性不想要孩子？這仍然是一個(gè)謎。
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@heididlr5433
Many women in South Korea choose not to have children due to societal expectations and gender roles. Single living is often considered a temporary phase, and women who have babies alone are not always judged kindly. Some women find it difficult to find a dateable man who will share household chores and childcare responsibilities equally.

許多韓國(guó)女性選擇不生孩子是因?yàn)樯鐣?huì)期望和性別角色。單身生活通常被認(rèn)為是一個(gè)暫時(shí)的階段，獨(dú)自生孩子的女性并不總是受到善意的評(píng)判。一些女性發(fā)現(xiàn)很難找到一個(gè)愿意平等分擔(dān)家務(wù)和育兒責(zé)任的可約會(huì)的男性。

@JithinJacob333
13:46 I feel bad for her. She really wants to have kids but can't because of other factors. The fact that she watches programs about raising kids and programs that have kids, knowing that she'll probably never get to experience that is just heartbreaking.
I really hope she gets to have a kid soon. She looks like she'd be an amazing mother

13:46 我為她感到難過(guò)。她真的很想要孩子，但因?yàn)槠渌蛩囟荒?。她看關(guān)于撫養(yǎng)孩子的節(jié)目和有孩子的節(jié)目，知道她可能永遠(yuǎn)無(wú)法體驗(yàn)到這一點(diǎn)，這真是令人心碎。
我真的希望她很快能有一個(gè)孩子，因?yàn)樗雌饋?lái)會(huì)是一個(gè)了不起的母親。
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@ohjinmyoung7350
in the past, women were forced to get married and have kids. i have yet to meet and old lady who had no education, no choice but to be married and not resent her past. old ladies are bitter . now having an education, being able to read an academic paper, being able to think for yourslef and make educated choices and then have kids is a great blessing. but tat was not the case in the past.

在過(guò)去，女性被迫結(jié)婚生子。我還沒(méi)有遇到一個(gè)沒(méi)有受過(guò)教育、別無(wú)選擇只能結(jié)婚并且不怨恨她的過(guò)去的老太太。她們很痛苦?，F(xiàn)在，受過(guò)教育，能夠閱讀學(xué)術(shù)論文，能夠?yàn)樽约核伎疾⒆龀鲇薪逃饬x的選擇，然后生孩子，這是一種巨大的祝福。但過(guò)去并非如此。

@beltrangarrote1982
It's a trend in all developed countries. Korea is just the most extreme case but many many countries are well below the 2.1 fertility rate needed to just maintain current population.

這是所有發(fā)達(dá)國(guó)家的趨勢(shì)，韓國(guó)只是最極端的例子，許多國(guó)家的生育率遠(yuǎn)低于維持當(dāng)前人口所需的2.1。

@doug2731
Excellent answers from every interviewee. The guy with the ponytail seemed to be especially thoughtful. As for me and my wife in Korea, she was eager to have kids when we first started dating. But these days as a married couple we have both agreed it's better to just enjoy each other's company without a child - stress free and able to save for our retirement rather than spending hundreds of millions of won raising a kid into a society with so little joy to offer them.

每位受訪者的回答都非常出色。那個(gè)扎馬尾的男人似乎特別深思熟慮。我和我的妻子在韓國(guó)，她剛開(kāi)始約會(huì)時(shí)非常渴望有孩子。但如今，作為一對(duì)已婚夫婦，我們都同意不要孩子，只是享受彼此的陪伴更好——沒(méi)有壓力，能夠?yàn)橥诵輧?chǔ)蓄，而不是花費(fèi)數(shù)億韓元撫養(yǎng)一個(gè)孩子進(jìn)入一個(gè)幾乎沒(méi)有快樂(lè)的社會(huì)。

@ngghnkmhvdhnibvccbnktrusfa5376
I mean in my pov as a female in this 21st century , my parents invest a lot in my education to help me get myself better opportunities in my future career , and the country i come from doesnt completely support the idea of woman working ( ecsp if the woman is to get married its always expected of her to give up her dreams and career for the sake of someone she just met ) ,no w tell me why i must go through 12 years of school ,4 years of undergraduate ( and if we add post graduate degree ) 2 more years of education , and waste 18 years of my parents salary if i have to give it up for the sake of someone ?? Who would want that ? I wouldnt i would want a good career for myself and would want to support my family with my money too

我的意思是作為21世紀(jì)的女性，我的父母在我的教育上投入了很多以幫助我在未來(lái)的職業(yè)生涯中獲得更好的機(jī)會(huì)，而我來(lái)自的國(guó)家并不完全支持女性工作的想法（特別是如果女性要結(jié)婚，社會(huì)總是期望她為了一個(gè)剛認(rèn)識(shí)的人放棄她的夢(mèng)想和職業(yè)生涯），現(xiàn)在告訴我，為什么我必須經(jīng)歷12年的學(xué)校教育，4年的本科（如果我們加上研究生學(xué)位）再加2年的教育，再為了某人而放棄這一切并浪費(fèi)我父母18年的薪水？？誰(shuí)會(huì)想要那樣？我不會(huì)，我想要一份好的職業(yè)并想用我的錢支持我的家庭。

@Hosigie
I'm European, I'll be 30 next week and I don't want kids. From what I've noticed, this problem is global and isn't confined to Korea. None of my friends are planning on having children either. Most have decided so because of the money issues. Raising a child is expensive, but some also just don't want to be reduced to just being a mother or a father. We've all worked hard for our careers and dreams and it's really hard letting that go just to have children. I honestly don't see a single positive thing in having children myself. I would only ever consider it if my partner really wanted them.

我是歐洲人，下周就30歲了，我不想要孩子。根據(jù)我的觀察，這個(gè)問(wèn)題是全球性的，不僅限于韓國(guó)。我的朋友們也沒(méi)有要孩子的計(jì)劃。大多數(shù)人因?yàn)殄X的問(wèn)題而決定不要孩子。撫養(yǎng)孩子很貴，但有些人也不想僅僅被降級(jí)為母親或父親。我們都為我們的職業(yè)和夢(mèng)想努力工作，僅僅為了有孩子而放棄這些真的很難。老實(shí)說(shuō)我自己看不到任何有孩子的積極因素。只有在我的伴侶真的想要孩子時(shí)，我才會(huì)考慮。

@Shirma85
Not only South Korea facing this problem also my country that I come from - Poland. People can't afford to own house the cost of living is too high. If you want a family both of parents has to work unless your spouse makes more than the average person make. As a single person I make the minimum wage where 70% of it goes to pay my rent. It's crazy!!!!

不僅是韓國(guó)面臨這個(gè)問(wèn)題，我來(lái)自的國(guó)家——波蘭也是如此。人們買不起房子，生活成本太高了。如果你想要一個(gè)家庭，父母雙方都必須工作，除非你的配偶賺得比普通人多。作為一個(gè)單身人士，我賺的是最低工資，其中70%用于支付房租。這太瘋狂了?。。?！

@arisunohana
I'm not Korean, but as a Chinese, I feel the same sentiment-- having my own issues to deal with, having my doubts in raising them, and realistically more difficult if that were a viable option with how many of us are financially struggling!

我不是韓國(guó)人，但作為中國(guó)人，我有同樣的感受——我有自己的問(wèn)題要處理，對(duì)撫養(yǎng)孩子有疑慮，而且如果這是一個(gè)可行的選擇，考慮到我們中有多少人在經(jīng)濟(jì)上掙扎，這實(shí)際上會(huì)更加困難！

@arisunohana
my own personal problem though, is as an Asian American with an immigrant parent, I'm still having to find myself uncomfortable, but necessary in having to speak up for myself in telling my mother constantly that I really don't want to have children in the future. I'm not discouraging others; it's just not for me.

我個(gè)人的問(wèn)題是作為一個(gè)有移民父母的亞裔美國(guó)人，我仍然發(fā)現(xiàn)自己不得不感到不舒服，但有必要為自己發(fā)聲并不斷告訴我的母親我真的不想要孩子。我不是在勸阻別人，這只是不適合我。

@adw6894
Men can just run away without paying child support, no burden for men at all. It happens alot in Asia. To sue men like that, women need many money to pay lawyer, but usually she doesn't have. So men get no consequences.

男人可以逃跑而不支付子女撫養(yǎng)費(fèi)，對(duì)男人來(lái)說(shuō)完全沒(méi)有負(fù)擔(dān)，這在亞洲經(jīng)常發(fā)生。要起訴這樣的男人，女性需要很多錢來(lái)支付律師費(fèi)用，但通常她沒(méi)有，所以男人沒(méi)有任何后果。

@svetaAFG
What scares me is that one parent is not enough to support a kid. With half of the marriages ending in divorce I can't bring myself to plan a child knowing that as a mother I'll have to carry a weight of raising them. Aliments can do only so much when you have to pay for rent and childcare and food. I'm sorry but having a child today is luxury I can't afford.

讓我感到害怕的是單親不足以撫養(yǎng)一個(gè)孩子。由于一半的婚姻以離婚告終，我無(wú)法讓自己計(jì)劃要孩子，因?yàn)槲抑雷鳛槟赣H，我將承擔(dān)撫養(yǎng)孩子的重?fù)?dān)。當(dāng)你必須支付房租、育兒費(fèi)和食物費(fèi)用時(shí)，贍養(yǎng)費(fèi)只能起到有限的作用。很抱歉，如今生孩子對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)是一種無(wú)法負(fù)擔(dān)的奢侈品。
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@merrymachiavelli2041
One interesting nuance is that almost nobody wants, or thinks it's practically feasible, to have more than 2 kids. You see this a lot in other countries too. Realistically, to maintain a birth rate above 2.1 requires quite a lot of people to have 3-4, because there's always going to be some people who, for various reasons, have no kids at all.
This is a kinda obvious fact about averages on the face of it, but I think in a lot of countries having large families increasingly seems not just difficult to manage, but intrinsically undesirable/irresponsible.

一個(gè)有趣的細(xì)節(jié)是幾乎沒(méi)有人想要或認(rèn)為生超過(guò)2個(gè)孩子是實(shí)際可行的，在其他國(guó)家也經(jīng)常看到這種情況。實(shí)際上，要維持高于2.1的出生率，需要相當(dāng)多的人生3-4個(gè)孩子，因?yàn)榭傆幸恍┤擞捎诟鞣N原因根本不生孩子。
這表面上是一個(gè)關(guān)于平均數(shù)的顯而易見(jiàn)的事實(shí)，但我認(rèn)為在許多國(guó)家，擁有大家庭不僅越來(lái)越難以管理，而且在本質(zhì)上似乎是不受歡迎或不負(fù)責(zé)任的。

@wildswan221
In the 1970s, the Korean government advertised that only animals have multiple children, and that Koreans were now civilized, so they should have only one or two. People really internalized that. Young people don’t even know what happened to their society…. Now people are supposed to change.

在20世紀(jì)70年代，韓國(guó)政府宣傳說(shuō)只有動(dòng)物才會(huì)生多個(gè)孩子，而韓國(guó)人現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)文明了，所以他們應(yīng)該只生一兩個(gè)，人們真的內(nèi)化了這一點(diǎn)。年輕人甚至不知道他們的社會(huì)發(fā)生了什么……現(xiàn)在人們應(yīng)該改變了。

@beyondimagination832
Koreans think how to raise kids properly before giving birth. They are responsible enough to understand that if they can provide good life to their kids only then they will bring them on earth. I wish Indians think in this way. Irrespective of social status or income, being poor or middle class or rich, once a boy or girl grows to a marriageable age, they are getting married, some of them may not have stable income too. After marriage societal pressure is there to give birth. Irrespective of how much India develops in science & technology, there is no change in this thought.

韓國(guó)人在生孩子之前會(huì)考慮如何正確撫養(yǎng)孩子。他們有足夠的責(zé)任感去理解，只有當(dāng)他們能為孩子提供良好的生活時(shí)，才會(huì)把孩子帶到這個(gè)世界上。我希望印度人也能這樣想。無(wú)論社會(huì)地位或收入如何，無(wú)論是窮人、中產(chǎn)階級(jí)還是富人，一旦男孩或女孩到了適婚年齡，他們就會(huì)結(jié)婚，其中一些人可能也沒(méi)有穩(wěn)定的收入?；楹笊鐣?huì)壓力迫使他們生孩子。無(wú)論印度在科學(xué)技術(shù)上發(fā)展了多少，這種思想都沒(méi)有改變。

@jungersrules
I also think social media has show young Koreans that life doesn't have to be one way or you're doomed. Even though I'm past my reproductive years, I have found in the last 20 years that I have learned so much through coming across different contents here on YouTube. My mind has been expanded and I see a much broader world then ever before.

我也認(rèn)為社交媒體向年輕的韓國(guó)人展示了生活不必只有一種方式，否則你就會(huì)完蛋。盡管我已經(jīng)過(guò)了生育年齡，但在過(guò)去的20年里，我通過(guò)YouTube上的不同內(nèi)容學(xué)到了很多東西。我的思維得到了擴(kuò)展，我看到了一個(gè)比以前更廣闊的世界。

@Zero0Zero0000
Another key part is how most of the men focus on the economic hardships of having children while the women focus on wasting their life away raising a child. This is so important because it defines the roles of the parents. A baby is 50% the father's responsibility and 50% the mother's responsibility, but society still forces it to be 10% the father's and 190% the mother's. It's not fair for women to go through the burden of pregnancy and labor and then also have to raise a child on their own without any support from their husbands/partners.

另一個(gè)關(guān)鍵部分是大多數(shù)男性關(guān)注的是生孩子的經(jīng)濟(jì)困難，而女性則關(guān)注的是在撫養(yǎng)孩子中浪費(fèi)生命。這一點(diǎn)非常重要，因?yàn)樗x了父母的角色。一個(gè)孩子是父親50%的責(zé)任和母親50%的責(zé)任，但社會(huì)仍然將其強(qiáng)加為父親10%的責(zé)任和母親190%的責(zé)任。女性會(huì)經(jīng)歷懷孕和分娩的負(fù)擔(dān)，然后還不得不在沒(méi)有丈夫/伴侶支持的情況下獨(dú)自撫養(yǎng)孩子，這是不公平的。