為什么印度人在國外面臨如此多的仇恨，喜聞樂見印度網(wǎng)民互懟

navsiee123
It has become fashionable to blame Punjabis and Haryanvis for the racism in the West, and we can also see the inferiority complex on this subreddit. But, in my short stint abroad, I have noticed the ones we see on social media are a small minority, and most keep their heads down and work. Obviously, there are problematic elements in the West, and they need to be called out.

But, the goras are equally annoyed, if not more, by the random garbas and chhat pooja celebration, since those are not their festivals too, as pointed out by another user, or the scamming done by gujjus, if you open TikTok there are millions of views on the gujju gold smuggler video or the recent target employee theft video. We just don't have the same cultural capital to defend ourselves.

Also not to say that I support caste stickers on cars, but if you work for an IT compnay and you see the systematic telegu representation or how the south indian brahmin lobbying works, this will seem the smallest of problems, they often hire incompetent people from their caste groups from the randomest colleges in the US, and there are consultanices back hoe which pad their resumes and they are actually skillless. The US has an uneasy history of slavery, and if you ever meet the brahims/ iyer/ and iyenger lobby, you will understand why the whites have issues with how indians talk about other indians. This is what the post that the OP has posted is about. Most of them do not even accept food not cooked by their brethren.

Maybe it's easier to hate on Haryana because we speak Hindi, and it's understood by a large majority of people and our proximity with Delhi, and obviously our proximity to Delhi puts a media glare.

And lord knows that we have lots of problems in our society and we are the first ones to accept it and work unlike our subs, but one of the red lines in west is not to treat other humans in a way that subjugates certain people to certain task (even if they are internally racist, talking about it is a whole different thing, the world is not what you see on twitter) and this is not primarily haryanvis ka doing.
現(xiàn)在把西方種族主義歸咎于旁遮普人和哈里亞納人已成了一種風(fēng)氣，在reddit子論壇里也能看出某種自卑情結(jié)。但根據(jù)我在國外的短暫經(jīng)歷，社交媒體上展現(xiàn)的只是極少數(shù)人，大多數(shù)人都專注工作。顯然西方也存在一些問題群體，這些確實需要被批判。??

?不過正如另一位用戶指出的，白人群體對突如其來的'garba'和'chhat pooja'慶祝活動同樣反感（畢竟這些不是他們的節(jié)日），還有古吉拉特人的詐騙行為——打開TikTok就能看到古吉拉特黃金走私案視頻或近期塔吉特百貨員工盜竊案的視頻，視頻播放量達到百萬級。只是我們沒有足夠的文化資本來為自己辯護。??

?另外，我并不是說我支持在汽車上貼種姓標識，但如果你在IT公司工作，看到泰盧固人（Telugu）一貫的壟斷優(yōu)勢，或是南印度婆羅門（Brahmin）的游說方式，就會覺得汽車貼種姓標識根本不算什么大問題。他們常從美國野雞大學(xué)招聘同種姓的無能之輩，而且印度國內(nèi)還有一些咨詢機構(gòu)會美化這些人的簡歷，這些人實際毫無技能。美國對奴隸制歷史本就敏感，若見識過婆羅門/艾亞爾（Iyer）/艾揚格（Iyengar）種姓的游說團體，你就會明白為什么白人對印度人貶低同胞的言行如此反感——原帖討論的正是這種現(xiàn)象。這些人甚至多數(shù)拒絕食用非本種姓烹飪的食物。??

?或許仇恨哈里亞納人更簡單：因為我們講印地語（多數(shù)印度人能聽懂），又毗鄰德里，這種地理位置自然讓我們更容易受到媒體關(guān)注。??

?眾所周知，我們社會當(dāng)然存在諸多問題，也始終直面并改進，這點不同于某些群體。但西方社會的紅線是禁止以壓迫性方式對待他人（即便他們骨子里也存在種族歧視，公開表現(xiàn)卻是另一回事，現(xiàn)實世界可不像推特呈現(xiàn)的那樣），而這種現(xiàn)象主要并非哈里亞納人所為。


BoisWithoutKois reply navsiee123
Thank you for pointing it out. No one that I have met in US does this. Doesn't mean they don't exist here, but super minority.
感謝你的指正。我在美國遇到的人里沒有這么做的，這并不意味著這樣的人在美國不存在，但他們絕對是極少數(shù)。


navsiee123 reply navsiee123
Also, happy to help if anyone has questions on moving to States or jobs here, god knows we need better represenation
另外，如果有人關(guān)于移居美國或求職方面的問題，我也樂意幫忙——天知道我們需要塑造更好的公眾形象。


RIZZ_MOD reply navsiee123
Yeah i am interested but rn I am in graduation 1st year
嗯我確實感興趣，但目前還在讀大一


OrganicSalamander593 reply navsiee123
US/Europe bubble is over now. Poof
Welcome Dedollarisation.
美歐經(jīng)濟泡沫已破滅。噗——
迎接去美元化時代吧


Sitting_Rocket reply navsiee123
Lol 
哈哈


xingrox reply navsiee123
I am from Punjab, and I live in Chicago area, and I met only 2 Haryanvis so far. Since I have family jn Haryana too, I was SO HAPPY to talk to those two guys!!! Never met anyone from there again!
我是旁遮普人，住在芝加哥地區(qū)，目前總共只遇到過兩位哈里亞納老鄉(xiāng)！因為我自己在哈里亞納也有親戚，當(dāng)時和那兩位老兄聊天簡直激動得快飛起來了！可惜之后再也沒遇見過來自那里的人，一個都沒有了！


Visual-Maximum-8117
The person who posted this should be prosecuted in that country.
發(fā)布這條內(nèi)容的人應(yīng)當(dāng)在那個國家被起訴


UnhappyMix3415 reply Visual-Maximum-8117
don't lower the standards for legal prosecution that much, do you think the legal system is a bat you can use to bash people you don't like? He's simply toxically ingroup-favouring. I'd actually understand slightly more if the guy was using slurs, but that's just me having very strong feelings around free speech.
別把起訴的門檻降得這么低，你覺得法律是你用來打擊不喜歡的人的棍子嗎？他只不過是極端偏愛自己的小圈子而已。說真的，如果他用的是侮辱性詞匯我倒多少還能理解，當(dāng)然這純粹在于我對言論自由的強烈立場。


masalacandy
The Tamil guy migrated to Texas with his casteist brain and he won't even pay proper wages to guy who is hired 
那個泰米爾人帶著他的種姓思想移民到了得克薩斯州，他甚至不給他的員工支付合理的工資


LUXURY_BAHRAIN reply masalacandy
This petty argument thread is exactly why no one likes indians
這種雞毛蒜皮的吵來吵去，活該印度佬招人煩


Billa_Gaming_YT reply masalacandy
Probably a Tamil brahmin who ran to Texas because of fear of Periyar. When Periyar was alive, he used to order his men to cut and collect the pony tail and ponool (janeu thread) of the Brahmins.

Many Tamil Brahmins resorted to run away from this country to USA, Canada, Australia, etc,. though they are in foreign countries, their casteist mindset is still fresh. One of my friends who was a Jaat (now converted to Buddhism due to personal beliefs) wasn't even allowed to visit his friend's home in Kentucky.

From what I've heard, Indians (especially Tamil Brahmins) are the most racist to other Indians, followed by Blacks and Whites. Mexicans usually mind their own business until we start any beef with them. He even joked, Mess with one Mexican, you'll see 10 coming at you.
估計是個被“Periyar”嚇跑到德州的泰米爾婆羅門?！癙eriyar”在世時，曾下令手下剪掉婆羅門的辮子并沒收他們的圣線（janeu thread）。??

?許多泰米爾婆羅門因此逃離印度，跑到美國、加拿大、澳大利亞等地。盡管身在國外，他們的種姓思維依然根深蒂固。我有個賈特人朋友（后來因個人信仰改信佛教）甚至不被允許去肯塔基州的朋友家做客。??

?據(jù)我所知，印度人（尤其是泰米爾婆羅門）對其他印度人最為歧視，其次是黑人和白人。墨西哥人通常不愛惹事，除非我們先挑釁。他還開玩笑說：惹了一個墨西哥人，就會招來十個。


Allosaura reply Billa_Gaming_YT
That's why Indians are hated by almost everyone in the world. Because we're still stuck in that age old-caste system even when we're in foreign countries (though I'm not Hindu).
這就是為什么印度人幾乎處處招人嫌。即便人在國外，我們依然死抱著那套腐朽的種姓制度不放（雖然我自己不是印度教徒）


ChholeyBhature
You might have seen some people flaunting their caste on the back of the car. People put too much pride in their caste.
你或許見過某些人在車尾張貼炫耀種姓標識。人們對自身種姓懷有過分的自豪感。


More-Climate-2194 reply ChholeyBhature
Come to Himachal, you'll see these "upper caste" people naming even the restraunt after their caste. 50% of dhabbas are either "thakur dhaba" or "sharma bhojnalya"

Someone once told me they do this so other "thakurs and shrarma" knows that food prepared here is by "upper caste"

That's how it is. And yet, people claim there's no casteism 
來Himachal邦看看吧，這些‘高種姓’的人連餐館都要用種姓命名。50%的路邊餐館不是叫‘thakur dhaba’就是‘sharma bhojnalya’。??
?有人曾告訴我，他們這么做是為了讓其他‘thakurs and shrarma’知道——這里的食物是‘高種姓’廚師專門準備的。??
?現(xiàn)實就是如此。可偏偏還有人聲稱印度沒有種姓制度！


Admirable_Phase_6959 reply More-Climate-2194
What’s the problem in using surnames for their restaurants or dhaba do you realise 90% of business all across the world use their surname for their business name
用姓氏給餐館或路邊小餐館命名有什么問題？難道你沒意識到全世界90%的企業(yè)都在用姓氏作為企業(yè)名稱嗎？


Classic_Knowledge_25 reply Admirable_Phase_6959
Surname and caste name are different things.
姓氏和種姓是兩回事


Admirable_Phase_6959 reply Classic_Knowledge_25
My point was for the above person has issue with people using their surname for their business names
我的觀點是針對上述那位，此人對于人們使用自己姓氏作為店鋪名稱有異議。


Classic_Knowledge_25 reply Admirable_Phase_6959
He said he has a problem with caste names
他說他對種姓名稱有異議


Admirable_Phase_6959  reply Classic_Knowledge
So?
所以？


ChholeyBhature
I agree.
我同意


JagmeetSingh2
Very true
非常正確


OpportunityFunny473
abhi bus se travel Kiya hai aur 10 yadav/yaduvansi dhaba aur kayi maurya dhaba dekha hai, baki caste ke poster dekte samay andhe ho jate ho kya ?
我剛乘坐巴士旅行，沿途看到10家‘yadav/yaduvansi’餐館和多家‘maurya’餐館，難道你們看到其他種姓的招牌時就瞎了嗎？（譯者注yadav亞達夫?qū)儆诼浜箅A層，maurya莫里亞是剎帝利種姓分支）


Snoo-67601
Fictional words par pride?
為虛構(gòu)的詞匯感到自豪


ChholeyBhature  reply Snoo-67601
Sad but true
可悲但卻是事實


DarkHorse6969_
You have confused his/her hating the caste system with hating India. The person nowhere expressed hating the nation. That person is showing disgust for the caste system and hierarchy (casteism). Majority of the Indians are against the caste system, and the inherent hierarchy and discrimination that follows. There is Asian hate, and then there's this caste system which Indians carry with them wherever they go, causing hatred amongst Indians, then there's religion, language, region, veg/non-veg, goes on and on...
你把他/她對種姓制度的反感和對印度的厭惡弄混了。這家伙在任何地方都沒有表達過對國家的憎恨。對方厭惡的只是種姓制度及其等級體系（種姓主義）。大多數(shù)印度人都反對種姓制度及其固有的等級與歧視。世界上存在對亞裔的仇恨，而印度人無論到哪里都帶著種姓制度，它先是在印度人內(nèi)部制造仇恨，接著還有宗教、語言、地域、素食/非素食等問題…沒完沒了…


Clear-Mode4310

Just to add, they think they’re superior!
補充一句，他們認為自己高人一等


Exciting_Map_7382 reply Clear-Mode4310

The whole thread is even funnier, she tried to be empathetic lMao, and look at the response.

Doesn't really matter though, they both are retards.
這個帖子越來越精彩了，她還想假裝有同理心，再看看人家的反應(yīng)。不過其實無所謂，反正兩個都是傻X。


A-t-r-o-x reply Exciting_Map_7382
These Apes took over and colonized 90% of the land on earth. They were kicked out of most of them but they still hold massive areas like North America, Australia amd Siberia - lands that didn't belong to them

Now the Apes want to stop immigration because they get a taste of their own medicine
這群類人猿（指代白人）強奪并殖民了全球90%的土地。他們雖在多數(shù)地區(qū)被掃地出門，卻仍霸占北美、澳洲、西伯利亞等本不屬于他們的廣袤疆域。如今類人猿竟妄想阻止移民——只因他們嘗到了自己種的惡果。


serotonallyblindguy reply Clear-Mode4310
X is a shithole
X就是個屎坑


Clear-Mode4310 reply serotonallyblindguy
Without a doubt!
毫無疑問


Vegji
Bro these mfs could have just said we don't want non veg food 
兄弟，這幫孫子早說不不想吃葷食就完事兒了！


Legitimate-Desk-5536
So many reasons. Online thing is different, on the name of dark humour people are just being racist, but there are uncountable incidents where we have done something that we deserve. There is a sub named slumlords canada, visit, you’ll definitely figure out which one is from Indian landlord, search Dundas square and you’ll find Haryanvi, Punjabi dancing on streets, sometimes forcing other people to dance, which can come off as harassment. Then look for Westwood plaza diwali and you’ll find so called “Khalistani vs Hindustani” showing off their power by revving cars to the max, loud music without considering that it’s not a Canadian festival, people are going to work tomorrow, burning firecrackers and leaving everything in that plaza. These are not even tip of ice berg, respect the culture and people you are trying to assimilate in, let’s try not to force “out things” on people unless they want to experience.
原因太多了。網(wǎng)絡(luò)上的言論是一回事，總有人打著‘黑色幽默’的幌子搞種族歧視；但現(xiàn)實中，我們（印度裔）確實做過一些活該被指責(zé)的事，這樣的例子數(shù)不勝數(shù)。去看看Reddit上的‘加拿大貧民窟房東’（slumlords canada）論壇板塊，一眼就能認出哪個是印度房東；搜搜登打士廣場（Dundas Square），準能見到哈里亞納邦人、旁遮普人在街頭強拉路人跳舞，這他么就是騷擾；再到韋斯特伍德廣場（Westwood Plaza）的排燈節(jié)現(xiàn)場，那群‘卡利斯坦派’和‘印度斯坦派’為了炫耀實力，把汽車油門轟到震天響，音樂放到最大聲，完全不顧這不是加拿大節(jié)日、別人第二天還要上班！他們亂放煙花，把廣場搞得一片狼藉。這些還只是冰山一角！請尊重你所融入的文化和人民，除非對方自愿體驗，否則別強行輸出自己的‘那一套’。


WolfGuptaofficial
i hope this falls under some employment discrimination law that can be used to prosecute this guy
希望此事能符合就業(yè)歧視法的適用范圍，用于控告此人


Mostlytame
They deserve it!
他們活該


Actual-Raccoon2934
Why do majority of indians face so much hate in india itself?
為何多數(shù)印度人在本國境內(nèi)也面臨如此多仇恨？ 


zero_four
For obvious reason?
原因顯而易見


isuppose3
'Looking for a female to date'

leftists - sexism !
找個女的約會吧
左派——性別歧視


Glittering_Elk1098
Casteism
種姓制度


capital_liablility69
Its understandable tho. We absolutely suck as tourists. I have seen Punjabis in the metro do random as singing and disturbing people. We need to civilize ourselves better. Why do we have to drink and dance in the train? I don't get it, maybe cause I'm an introvert
這確實可以理解。我們作為游客的表現(xiàn)實在太糟糕了。我親眼見過旁遮普人在地鐵里莫名其妙開始唱歌，擾亂他人。我們必須提升自身文明素養(yǎng)，為什么非要在火車上喝酒跳舞？實在無法理解，或許因為我是個內(nèi)向的人吧。


ImisNobody
I miss those times when Brahmins thought it was sin to travel across oceans
我懷念那個婆羅門認為漂洋過海是罪孽的年代


chandlerbing__
Folks like you not being able to understand why is he getting hate, is the prime reason why we get hate.
像你這樣的人無法理解他為何招人恨，這正是我們招人恨的根本原因。


Junior-Ad-133
I live in a foreign country and no they don’t really hate us in general. Some might be annoyed and post on Reddit but hate is a strong word. But yes Indian tourist receive lot of hate from people working in tourism because of our behaviour. Specially from group tours. Individual tourists or couples are still respected.
我住在國外，總的來說，他們其實并不真的討厭我們。有些人或許感到反感而在Reddit發(fā)帖，但‘討厭’這個詞未免過重。不過必須承認，由于部分行為問題，印度游客尤其團體游確實遭到很多旅游業(yè)從業(yè)人員的反感。反倒是個人游或情侶游客仍受尊重。


Old_Man_Sailor
No hate at all, you guys need to travel and stop looking at Instagram.
根本談不上仇恨，你們得去旅行，別光顧著刷Ins了


DepartureAny7617
No hate if he asks halal certified
如果他要求清真認證，也請別見怪


xbigbOObsnMilfFucker
IMO: Cuz Indians hate otha Indians, FYI, it is a job requirement for em to have a specific cuisine related ?. The dude who commented in OP pictures has no sense. Where did this dude go when a Job requirement asks one to be a CITIZEN of a nation? It is just a job requirement, keep it shut and keep it moving. Feel free to reply to OP, this is an opinion and needs no responses/comments to extend the convo.
要我說：因為印度人討厭其他印度人！科普一下——要求廚師懂特定菜系，這本就是崗位硬指標！原帖里瞎噴的那哥們純屬沒腦子。換作工作要求國籍身份時，這孫子躲哪兒去了？這只是一項工作要求而已，閉嘴照做就完事了！你可以隨意回復(fù)原帖發(fā)布者，老子這是個人觀點陳述——? ?免回！


cosmicHostz
Wait aren't iryers and Brahmans both are the same thing like Iyer is a surname while brahman is a whole class caste ? Anyways
等等，艾亞爾（Iyer）和婆羅門（Brahman）難道不是一回事嗎？比如艾亞爾是個姓氏，而婆羅門是整個種姓階級？不管了.


donlesnar
The person commenting also seems to be Indian. So I guess it's not hate from foreign.
發(fā)表評論的人看起來也是印度人。所以我想，這并非來自外國的敵意。


707yr
backward cultures will show it no matter where they go
落后文化無論傳播到何處都會顯露出來


GroupFun5219
the "hatred" in this case is justified.
在這種情況下，這種 “仇恨” 是情有可原的


No_Raddit
In this country... Caste matter , Skill don't matter
在這個國家…種姓決定一切，能力一文不值


shirohige52 reply No_Raddit
Say that to reservation
跟預(yù)留制度說去吧。


Chemical-Dog6056
Don’t you know the famous sign? Kshatriyas, Vaishas, Shudras, Dalits, and Dogs not allowed
難道你沒見過那臭名昭著的標語嗎？剎帝利、吠舍、首陀羅、達利特以及狗不得入內(nèi)


shirohige52 reply Chemical-Dog6056
Famous? Famous in your home? Bro stop spreading unnecessary hatred
出名？在你家出名吧？兄弟，別再散播無謂的仇恨了


Chemical-Dog6056 reply shirohige52
It’s a joke bro, whites see us all as same
這就是個玩笑啦，兄弟，白人看我們都一個樣


Comfortable-Mud-8253
Indians ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? 
印度人有擁抱的習(xí)慣（譯者注此處不會翻，大家可以跳過）


Flimsy_Director_1336
Beef eaters?
吃牛肉的？


Devashish_07019
Look how is this diff from wanting halal or kosher ? This probably has to do with cooking with same taste or similar practice.
看看這和需要清真或潔食有何不同？這大概是為了追求相同口味或采用類似烹飪方式吧


GeneralMental2694
This one deserved
這個實至名歸


Specific-Tax-3226
Is Leander their pet ??
Leander是他們的寵物嗎？


shirohige52
It's very simple. He may require a cook for a special occasion. A brahman would know about rituals followed by brahmans, cutting the hassle to explain every single thing to the cook. And dude, you don't understand the hatred and level of insecurities people have against people of brahman community who are less than 1% of the population. Who knows of even 1%.

Some guys are so so low and consumed in hatred that they would intentionally spoil the food or temper with it just to satisfy there own insecurities. How can you expect people of brahman community to trust others when they literally see other's hating on them for the smallest of things.

You want get in their world, you won't gain anything but your insecurities lead you to try to do so. But what infuriates you is when they don't want you in their world.

Basically it all comes down to. You want to be with them but they do not so you hate them at different levels through verbal and physical abuse online and offline. This is just another level of insecurity.

And the funny thing is that some guys would deny eve this after writing intercaste marriage should happen and etc etc. Like bro of they don't want to associate themselves with you then why are you getting butt hurt

Have some pride bro, That's the main difference which sperates you
很簡單，他可能在某個特殊場合需要一名廚師。婆羅門族人了解本族禮儀規(guī)范，省去向廚師逐一解釋的麻煩。兄弟，你根本不懂人們對占人口數(shù)量不到1%的婆羅門群體懷有多深的恨意和強烈的不安全感，甚至連這1%的人都沒多少人了解！
有些人心胸極其狹隘，被仇恨沖昏了頭腦，會故意糟蹋食物或?qū)κ澄飫邮帜_來緩解自己的不安全感。當(dāng)婆羅門族人親眼看到別人因為一點小事就討厭他們時，你憑什么指望他們信任外人？
你們妄圖闖入他們的世界，除了助長自身焦慮毫無所得。但真正激怒你們的是——他們根本不愿接納你們。
本質(zhì)上，事情可以歸結(jié)為：你想和他們在一起，但他們不愿意，于是你就通過線上線下言語攻擊、身體霸凌等各層級仇恨來宣泄。這不過是另一種形式的不安全感罷了。
可笑的是，某些人一面高喊'要推動跨種姓婚姻'，一面卻矢口否認上述事實。拜托，既然人家不想與你有瓜葛，你何必這么生氣呢？
保持尊嚴吧兄弟，這才是區(qū)分你我本質(zhì)的關(guān)鍵所在。


Medium_Childhood_527
Nothing wrong with that. It's their choice. They can choose who ever they want. They are paying for it. If I choose a BRAHMIN cook what is your problem? I am a vegetarian and I prefer Brahmin cook. Not a person who cooks non veg.
這沒有任何問題。這是他們的自由選擇。他們完全可以按自己意愿挑選廚師，畢竟是他們付的錢。如果我選擇一位婆羅門廚師，跟你又有什么關(guān)系？身為素食者，我傾向于選擇婆羅門廚師，而不是做非素食的人。


ReasonPretend2124
this is not hate lol
這算不上仇恨哈


Main_Snow2228
Can muslim hire pork butcher as cook
穆斯林能雇傭殺豬匠檔廚師嗎


Reasonable-Neat4131 reply Main_Snow2228
Butchers don't cook. Cooks do.
屠夫不會烹飪，廚師會


Internal_Freedom_903
It's just because they want tasty, clean food and a trustworthy person to cook for them. Less cruel to situations like no pasmanda muslim is ever employed by afzal muslim to cook for the. No Catholic Christian will ever employ any Protestant and Orthodox Christians to cook for them. No  Hindu discriminate other hindu from entering any temple and doing any worship or acquiring any spiritual knowledge. All Hindus allow all people even from out of their faith to participate in all their poojas. Unlike other stupids who hate monger against Hindu community and their way of living. In some cases where some ritualistic food preparations and for situations people prefer cook and maids of their own choice. There should be no problem in this.
這僅僅因為他們想要美味、干凈的食物，以及值得信賴的廚師。對于像afzal穆斯林從不雇傭pasmanda穆斯林擔(dān)任廚師，這并不算殘忍；天主教徒也不會雇用新教徒和東正教徒為他們做飯。印度教徒從不禁止其他印度教徒進入寺廟禮拜或獲取精神知識。所有印度教儀式都允許所有人甚至非信仰者參與禮拜。完全不同于那些煽動仇恨、攻擊印度教生活方式的愚蠢之輩。在涉及儀式性食物準備的特定情境中，人們當(dāng)然有權(quán)選擇符合自己要求的廚師和幫傭，這根本無可厚非。


Arnorien16S reply Internal_Freedom_903
Funny delusion considering Vikas Khanna, who is a Indian Muslim Chef prepared a meal for the Pope himself in Vatican while Dalits visiting temples freak multiple Hindu people out.
這種妄想真可笑——想想看，?維卡斯·卡納?（Vikas Khanna）這位印度穆斯林廚師，可是在梵蒂岡親自為教皇準備過餐食的；而達利特人（Dalits）進個寺廟，卻能讓一堆印度教徒嚇破膽


Ultimately-Me
The irony. You post that image while asking the question?
真諷刺。你發(fā)那張圖時居然還問這種問題？


Reasonable_Walk6446
Kyuki jaat jaise madarjhaat log hain hamare desh main
因為我們國家里有像Jaat（賈特）這樣的雜種（譯者注此處拼寫有不少問題，只能勉強翻）


anxiety_ambivert
Just wondering if same hate wud have been shared if the zhia/zuni people had asked for zhia/zuni cooks only and krotestant people had asked for krotestant cook only

Like I have said I don't agree with that post for a specific caste cook but don't think that others are holier than cow.
試想一下，如果Zhia/Zuni要求雇傭?qū)俚腪hia/Zuni廚師，或者新教徒?指定只要新教廚師——某些人還會這樣大肆抨擊嗎？
正如我所說，我雖不認同特定種姓的廚師雇傭，?但也不認為其他人就比牛還圣潔（意指其他人并非更高尚、毫無問題）


No-Fisherman8334
Nothing wrong here. He wants food according to his traditions and taste.

Casteism only applies to discrimination in the public space.
這并沒有什么問題。他想要的不過是符合自身傳統(tǒng)與口味的食物。
種姓主義僅適用于公共空間的歧視行為


esper352
Help me understand what is wrong here - he is asking cooks from a specific region and a specific community. The cooking style of each people are different. Brahmins/Iyengars are mostly vegetarians. As a vegetarian, wouldnt one prefer to have it cooked by someone who is vegetarian?

What is casteist about this? If I ask for south indian cook, would that be regionalism?
幫我理解這有什么問題——他只是在要求來自特定地區(qū)和特定社群的廚師。每個族群的烹飪風(fēng)格都不同。婆羅門/艾揚格大多是素食者。作為一個素食者，難道不會更傾向于讓素食者來烹飪嗎？這哪里涉及種姓主義了？如果我要求南印度廚師，那算是地域主義嗎？


tigerguy2002 reply esper352
As a vegetarian, wouldnt one prefer to have it cooked by someone who is vegetarian?

Even meat eaters can cook vegetarian food and of a style of a certain community . This is just casteism through and through. No other explanation.
作為素食者，難道不會更希望由同為素食的人來烹飪嗎？
即便是肉食者也能烹飪素食，還能做出特定社群風(fēng)格的素食呢。這純粹就是種姓主義，沒別的解釋。


mistiquefog
Nothing wrong here.

After the Periyar movement in southern India, brahmins of southern India do not trust anyone else to come into their homes.

The Betiyar wanted to kill all the Brahmin men and capture the females for, you guess what. Btw he also married his own daughter. Reminds you of something? Kashmir files, then you are spot on.
這沒什么問題。
在印度南部的Periyar運動之后，南印度的婆羅門不再信任任何外人進入他們的家中。
Betiyar想殺死所有婆羅門男人，并擄走女人——你懂的。順便說一句，他還娶了自己的女兒。這讓你想起什么了嗎？《克什米爾檔案》？那你可算說對了


xbigbOObsnMilfFucker reply mistiquefog
100分


Unique-Builder-1862  reply mistiquefog
Bruh that's lots of misinformation . I don't wanna waste my time but use ChatGPT
兄弟，這全是錯誤信息啊。我不想浪費時間了，還是直接用ChatGPT吧。


Lord_Hoax
How is this hate? Facilitation of caste does not qualify as preservation of culture in my book.
這怎么算是仇恨？在我看來，促進種姓制度根本不能算作文化保護。


curious_coder_11 reply Lord_Hoax
Burn your book.
燒了你的書吧


Connect_Classic_5577
Halal meat pe jab bat hoti hai tum motherchodo ka gaand ghis jata hai.
每次一扯到清真肉，你們這幫狗娘養(yǎng)的屁股就像著火一樣。